bacon's defense at any time. we keep hoping, but they don't. and i think there is not really my said the white house can do. lou: the net is states is so gullible or we are so acquiescent and actually feel well served by their pursuit of their interest irrespective of the time to time annoyances like acquiring dictatorial powers on the part of the assembled. >> well, i think there is -- there has been a different influence in the region. if you take a look at the anti-american access, when you take a look at the hezbollah and hamas, these are very powerful people. they're really playing for keeps they know what they're doing. we are into the region, out of the region. secretary clinton rushed to the scene when she rushed to the middle east after the war broke out between hamas and israel. in the far east. we visited the far east. the president was visiting pagodas in the far east. lou: not going near india or china. you mentioned a moss, ron and syria along with egypt in that, if you will, axes with in the least. syria itself, the implications